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How would you solve the drug crisis in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver BC - Parkers Legacy

How would you solve the drug crisis in the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver BC

Wow, you don’t want my answer.It involves 500 -1000 sets of handcuffs, a locked facility for long term drug users all rounded up, locked up, mandatory jail type treatment for as many years as it takes, they don’t get out.then reintegration into meaningful Jobs.

No choice, no way out.If they don’t reintegrate and regress, mandatory 5 year jail term.I would demolish all the buildings in a 10 block radius, no allies, build low income high rises, after that any addicted drug users.

Either opt in or jail for a minimum 5 years yes, we the taxpayers need to put up.I could go on but I should stop.I can’t resist I found the drug addict that broke into my car in Yale town down on Hastings.

How do I know, he was wearing my jacket with my name on it, I would have given it to him for the brief case he took with accounting documents showing write offs of 106,000 dollars.No receipts, no write off.I lost the whole amount, police arrested the guy, he admitted he did it.

They put him in jail for the 34 th time.He was out the next morning.Nothing could be done.

If this was the states and I had a gun, I’d be in jail the next day.For life.Did i I answer your question with any form of “ normal thought process.

Except the end that if I could, legally shoot the guy and put him out of his misery.I would have.

I would make all of the drugs of choice available to addicts with a prescription.This would at least remove the criminal element.We have tried prohibition for at least 100 years it is a complete failure.

If you use the examples of heroin and cocaine two of the more widely popular addictive prohibited substances there cost is not that much more than aspirin .On the black market however their cost is astronomical .If addicts no longer had to resort to criminal activity to support their habits both small petty crime rates like theft and shop lifting and prostitution would plummet.

Our courts our police force our health care facilities and other social support services can all save literally billions of dollars on an annual basis if we can remove the criminal element from addiction.We can then take a portion of those dollars and treat some of the underlying problems which are the root cause of addiction in the first place.A significant majority of addicts are suffering from mental health issues and are self medicating.

If we look to the experience of Portugal we will discover that by removing the criminal element we will find that addictions rates went down.Another benefit of this is we would stop the most important source of funding for Islamic terrorist funding.

this is such a complex question, & one that has been mis-handled in vancouver, to my mind, for decades.first of all, the powers that be decided, probably 30 or more years ago (l’m not sure), to concentrate all of the problems that they had in one small area: the downtown eastside.and the problems were already horrendous, due to a decision made ( god only knows when) to empty the psychiatric hospitals; the thinking being, at that time, that integration into the community was the best for everybody.

l was so completely overwhelmed throughout the 70s& 80s (bringing up 4 children on 1 income, & coping with crohn’s disease) that the gradual, insidious nature of what was going on not very far from where we lived didn’t really hit me when it should have done.all those poor, poor people, abandoned by the system, not being integrated into the community at all.people self-medicating (& who could blame them), people not being able to cope on totally inadequate welfare rates, & rents getting higher & higher….

this had a direct impact on me, & my family: we came here in 1966 from england, and were followed by my mother’s cousin 2 years later.he came from london, got a job as a tool & die maker, raced motor bikes, he was thrilled to be alive.within a couple of years he’d got in with the wrong crowd; become a junkie; broken into shops, & stolen from family to pay for his habit.

he ended up, after getting out of prison, going back to live with his brother in london, where he killed himself.a completely wasted life.l started reading then: about the real cost to society at large, as well as the individual, of making the use of drugs, even heroin, illegal.

lf drug usage weren’t seen as exciting, or counter-culture, or any of the other reasons that people start using them… what then?and if the drugs were legal, and regulated, the way tobacco & alcohol are supposed to be, then what?a single dose of heroin cost 9cents when l read the most powerful essay l came across (before the internet); l can’t imagine that the real cost could be that unaffordable now.

drugs cost a fortune because they are illegal.drugs are dangerous, or fatal, because they’re illegal.drugs make horrible people wealthy from the suffering of others.

l used to smoke; l stopped 35 years ago, & it wasn’t easy.l dream about smoking, still, literally.l don’t know what l’d do if coffee were suddenly seen as wrong; l yearn for carbohydrates.

people are easily addicted to all sorts of substances, from heroin to sugar.we’re hard-wired for it.what we need to do is legalise all of it.

everything.regulate it, so that people aren’t dying from heroin laced with fentanyl.lt seems screamingly obvious to me that if you take away the outrageous cost of an addiction, the person wouldn’t need to resort to thievery, or anything else, in order to get what they need.

and then we need to ask ourselves why we don’t look after people who have this particular issue the same way that we look after people who have any other health issue, with understanding & compassion, and an offer of real help dealing with it.as for the drug problem in the downtown eastside of vancouver; this was decades in the making, & it’s going to take decades to undo it.we need to legalise drugs.

we need to get people off the streets, out of tents in parks, out of winnebagos parked where they won’t get a ticket, and into some sort of safe, affordable housing.l can’t imagine how it’s going to get done, with the cost of housing here, any sort of housing.and the first, & only place to start, as far as l can see, is to make drugs legal.

now.

This is a tough situation.First I would open up Riverview Hospital after renovations were completed, then get most of the patients off the street.Then focus on the remaining people still on the street.

Get these people on a Methadone program for starters.All the patients at Riverview be placed as well on the Methadone program.This might help with the terrible withdrawal feelings when they don’t have heroine.

This will eliminate most if not all the Gong Show materials that only make other patrons less worrisome for sure.Find places for the homeless people like low income housing.We can’t expect change with high rises for rent that start at $2500 per month.

Find these people off the street and if they are on the Methadone program and in a contract have them agree to go back to work.Get these people some clothes and give them some cofidence.Everything starts in baby steps.

It all takes time and resources.Follow up with all these pèople to make sure they are on track.If someone messes up then they should be eliminated from the program.

The downtown east side is where addicts and their source of supply hang out, because that is a place where there is cheap accommodation and a community of likeminded people.You could bulldoze the whole area and build high end condos and tony shops.You could fill the area with a strong police presence.

That might “solve” the problem in the Downtown East Side.However, the real problem isn’t addicts, it’s addiction.Most people (fortunately) have no idea just how difficult a problem addiction is to deal with.

It isn’t just a matter of having enough will power to stop using.Almost no one has that kind of willpower.The best way to deal with addiction is never to get addicted in the first place.

This would require better education, stronger families and a lot of love.I don’t have the resources to make a dent in this problem.Maybe I can bring my children up in a loving supportive environment and teach them about the dangers of drugs and addiction in general.

That is about all I can do as an individual.

A2A It isn’t my problem to solve – it has to be solved on an individual basis by the people who are addicted to drugs and who are choosing to continue their addiction.Yes, more treatment beds would help – although I know of people who have received treatment and gone right back to using.Yes, more low-cost housing would help – although I know of addicts who have been given low-cost housing and were not able to sustain it.

Yes, harm reduction keeps addicts alive longer but it doesn’t solve the underlying addiction.Yes, stronger enforcement will get some drugs off the street but it seems that as soon as one supply is stopped, three more pop up.Yes, a clean, non-criminal drug supply would help but I question the wisdom of making drugs legal and free – there are … IMHO … already enough addicts.

Making drugs non-profitable for organized crime is probably the best solution.When cannabis is legalized, crime rates go down.Before the Harper government got in charge the downtown Eastside was actually cleaning up thanks to the fact that nobody was Prosecuting for marijuana possession.

It wasn’t legal, but there wasn’t a Crackdown.It’s the same thing with prostitution.If you look at history, when the police are not cracking down on prostitution crime rates decrease.

We tend to punish too much without thinking first.The War on Drugs has never worked.We took a hard-line approach and it failed.

Safe injection sites are a good idea.As well as decriminalization.I hope this helps.

I don’t think I am qualified to answer said question.Bbut my option is one of that there doing a good job of it at killing themselves off.I personally have never known anyone who did heroin before meeting Michael 9 years ago .

He quit without the methadone.And has abstained ever since.Opioid addiction is a choice.

They choose to keep doing a drug that could kill them at anytime and some it has killed and been revived a number of times and choose to keep going back to it.I think the money being poured into “solving this crisis “ would be better spent on affordable housing.

I’m not smart enough to have an answer nor dumb enough to think an easy fix exists.Addiction here is deep rooted and if there is hope it lies with future generations.Sadly for many here it is too late.

If that sounds harsh or fatalistic it is because I too have walked that path and it took years of brutally hard work to escaape the clutches of my addiction to crack cocaine.I know first-hand how difficult it can be.

It’s worth noting that the opiode crisis in BC isn’t even close to being a unique feature of the downtown east side – most of the fatalities are dosing alone in private residences.Injecting on the street is a much safer way to do it, because a social setting will keep an overdoser alive.

One of the things my school did to alleviate the problem was at the end of every month, a group of students would travel down there with food and clothing and amenities to hand out.

I wouldn’t say this solved the problem, but it definitely made a difference in a lot of people’s lives.

Treat with strictly administered heroin opiates…

The patients need proper social support to reinforce their recovery